SHOE DROPS | HEALTH CANADA PUTS FLAVOURS, NICOTINE & ADULT ACCESS ON THE TABLE
Regulatory intervention on flavours in vaping products (i.e. a flavour ban) is ‘not’ off the table says James Van Loon, Director General of the Tobacco Control …
Most of the teen Vapers would have been smokers if vaping was never a thing. When I was 12 and started smoking it wasn't because they tasted good. For them to say flavors are what attracted them to vaping is a cop out!
i was 15 when i started smoking behind my parents back. I was able to get them then. I see many kids smoking cigarettes still. Somehow they are getting cigarettes, isn't this more of a concern than them using an alternative that is 95.5% safer than cigarettes? There should be a much larger deal made about how they are getting the cigarettes, no? Shouldn't the fight to stop kids from getting either methods be a concern? Yet all we hear is about them being able to get a hold of vaping products.
How far will this go? Are our leaders and public health really so unscrupulous to sentence a large number of their own citizens to death? They know and we know: no flavors, no vaping. Flavors are essential. They are vital for the success of vaping.
1200 US smokes die from smoking every day. That's a fact. No argument against vaping is valid compared to that. Formaldehyde, diacetyl, chemical compounds, metals, whatever they come up with, it's nothing compared to 1200 deaths daily – in the US alone!
Denying access to flavors means killing people. There's no getting around it.
uhm… you can verify age with online sales… Some sites want a copy of your ID already sent in before purchase, or you could just card people at their door upon delivery..
The laws that are currently on all of this should be enforced parents should be involved with their kids and educated on what they are doing then there would be no need for any regulations stuff is already in place for this more laws are not going to make any difference
But how many are using nicotine in their vapor and how many aren't using any nicotine see this is what the studies never go into I think they're trying to make it look worse than it really is you need to put out a study that is truthful and not deceiving
Excuse my language, THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! WHY, HOW did the FDA put the screws to a CANADIAN DIRECTORATE??? And I thought your guys up North had some balls, guess I was WRONG, they're just as bad as they are down here in the States!
So a guy involved purely with tobacco control is having a say on vaping?? The two are not related in any way whatsoever. You probably shouldn't really have a coffee expert make all the important decisions on a country's tea industry should you?!
Teens will always do what you tell them not to do.. I suggest allowing only vape shops or liquor stores to sell vape products.. I get carded when I buy at a vape shop and I am 62 years old! They scan my license as well.. The issue is enforcement not prohibition..
Where was the government when kids were smoking in the 70s 80s 90s 2000s now vaping and it's way less harmful way to intake nicotine kids are guna be kids wouldn't u rather have them doing something that's much safer then smoking regular cigarettes? The kids thing is just a excuse, their (the government) because they don't have their hand in the vaping community's pockets like it does big tobacco it's all about the all mighty dollar, they don't care about our health it's all a business they want u to get sick its business also population control yea its bullshit at its finest if u ask me
Wonders how many millions of our TAX dollars are being spent on these issues. Just simply BAN all Flavors in all C Stores, that is the question answered. Leave Vape stores alone, they are not the culprit. Also how hard can Online Age verification be, sheesh…
Thanks for posting this follow up interview Brent. Still referencing US 'data' as reasonable cause for potentially unreasonable responses, I have to say I am slightly less sceptical following this one. In that the UK does not have access to the high level nicotine salts found in some US major brand's devices, I do not believe we have a youth 'epidemic' of vaping here. We also don't have scaremongering campaigns from an FDA or Truth etc organisation with vested interests alerting youth to the appealing evils of vaping…..
we still have 37 million people dying of cancer every year in the united states ,not sure how many in Canada ,vaping has been trying to lower the numbers, in Wisconsin our new governor feels that e-cigs are replacing conbustible cigs that is a good reason to tax,if quitting smoking is a sin I need to be punished more?have not had in ten years and still the subject to a sin tax ?
I have a pragmatic perspective: Let parents parent, and get off of everyone's back. From where do you derive the authority to tell people what they can and can't do? Why don't you mind your own business and stay in your lane?
All kinds of groups call for people to quit smoking, but they do not restrict tobacco and big Pharma coming out with nicotine control products that do not work for people. Yet they are ready to kill vaping that works. I smoked for 40 yrs and quit with flavored vape in less than a month and still enjoy vaping. And the age limit on Beer and Alcohol works real good and teens still get the hands on it.
Health Canada is so full of it. They attack vaping but leave cigarettes alone? They are trying to squash all competitiors to cigarettes , that much is clear.
They did the same for flavored cigarillos. They helped me to quit. They banned them so I switched to vaping. I vaped for 5-6 months. Then quit all together.
Their goal is to keep people on cigarettes. Health Canada and big tobacco are bosom buddies. They keep talking about nicotine and how bad it is. But if you look at new 3rd party studies, it's not nearly as bad as they thought. I fact there are cognitive bennifits to nicotine. Maybe that's what they are affraid of. The bad stuff came from all the other chemicals put into cigarettes and those produced by combustion.
Leave vaping alone. Striving for less government in our personal lives is the way to go.
They have not asked the YOUTH any relevant questions, the questions have been designed to ham-string vaping, who does this benefit? answer: Big tobacco and James Van Loon, whilst public health and 'do one'
Boom, just had a revelation !!!!!!!!!!!! If vaping is allowed, James Van (Director General of the Tobacco Control Directorate at Health Canada) no longer has a job, now I get it 🙂 . Stinks of corruption, nothing new here, these people do not care about public health at all.
ALL the scientific peer reviewed DATA in the UK has shown there is NO epidemic in youth vaping. However, there is so much flawed data out there that shows youth rates increasing, but its false and untrustworthy data. A good scientist would integrator all data properly before making any regulatory decision or restrictions. Just BAN vaping from youth, that you need to be over 18 to buy any vaper products, its that simple
They attack vaping but leave cigarettes out of the equation? Total madness unless it's to keep the cigarette industry also Big Pharma going on the money train.
Most of the teen Vapers would have been smokers if vaping was never a thing. When I was 12 and started smoking it wasn't because they tasted good. For them to say flavors are what attracted them to vaping is a cop out!
i was 15 when i started smoking behind my parents back. I was able to get them then. I see many kids smoking cigarettes still. Somehow they are getting cigarettes, isn't this more of a concern than them using an alternative that is 95.5% safer than cigarettes? There should be a much larger deal made about how they are getting the cigarettes, no? Shouldn't the fight to stop kids from getting either methods be a concern? Yet all we hear is about them being able to get a hold of vaping products.
How far will this go? Are our leaders and public health really so unscrupulous to sentence a large number of their own citizens to death? They know and we know: no flavors, no vaping. Flavors are essential. They are vital for the success of vaping.
1200 US smokes die from smoking every day. That's a fact. No argument against vaping is valid compared to that. Formaldehyde, diacetyl, chemical compounds, metals, whatever they come up with, it's nothing compared to 1200 deaths daily – in the US alone!
Denying access to flavors means killing people. There's no getting around it.
uhm… you can verify age with online sales… Some sites want a copy of your ID already sent in before purchase, or you could just card people at their door upon delivery..
The Juul should be banned because they clearly target kids in advertising plus they are expensive.
I bought a Vape mod online about a month ago I had to verify my age by sending a photo copy of my license and by making a account
The laws that are currently on all of this should be enforced parents should be involved with their kids and educated on what they are doing then there would be no need for any regulations stuff is already in place for this more laws are not going to make any difference
But how many are using nicotine in their vapor and how many aren't using any nicotine see this is what the studies never go into I think they're trying to make it look worse than it really is you need to put out a study that is truthful and not deceiving
But how
Excuse my language, THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! WHY, HOW did the FDA put the screws to a CANADIAN DIRECTORATE???
And I thought your guys up North had some balls, guess I was WRONG, they're just as bad as they are down here in the States!
So a guy involved purely with tobacco control is having a say on vaping?? The two are not related in any way whatsoever. You probably shouldn't really have a coffee expert make all the important decisions on a country's tea industry should you?!
Here in Australia we have ants that can kill you with a single sting, I'm not too worried about vaping to be honest lol
Canada wants to keep its tax dollars safe.
Teens will always do what you tell them not to do.. I suggest allowing only vape shops or liquor stores to sell vape products.. I get carded when I buy at a vape shop and I am 62 years old! They scan my license as well.. The issue is enforcement not prohibition..
Where was the government when kids were smoking in the 70s 80s 90s 2000s now vaping and it's way less harmful way to intake nicotine kids are guna be kids wouldn't u rather have them doing something that's much safer then smoking regular cigarettes? The kids thing is just a excuse, their (the government) because they don't have their hand in the vaping community's pockets like it does big tobacco it's all about the all mighty dollar, they don't care about our health it's all a business they want u to get sick its business also population control yea its bullshit at its finest if u ask me
Wonders how many millions of our TAX dollars are being spent on these issues. Just simply BAN all Flavors in all C Stores, that is the question answered. Leave Vape stores alone, they are not the culprit. Also how hard can Online Age verification be, sheesh…
Thanks for posting this follow up interview Brent. Still referencing US 'data' as reasonable cause for potentially unreasonable responses, I have to say I am slightly less sceptical following this one. In that the UK does not have access to the high level nicotine salts found in some US major brand's devices, I do not believe we have a youth 'epidemic' of vaping here. We also don't have scaremongering campaigns from an FDA or Truth etc organisation with vested interests alerting youth to the appealing evils of vaping…..
we still have 37 million people dying of cancer every year in the united states ,not sure how many in Canada ,vaping has been trying to lower the numbers, in Wisconsin our new governor feels that e-cigs are replacing conbustible cigs that is a good reason to tax,if quitting smoking is a sin I need to be punished more?have not had in ten years and still the subject to a sin tax ?
I have a pragmatic perspective: Let parents parent, and get off of everyone's back. From where do you derive the authority to tell people what they can and can't do? Why don't you mind your own business and stay in your lane?
All kinds of groups call for people to quit smoking, but they do not restrict tobacco and big Pharma coming out with nicotine control products that do not work for people. Yet they are ready to kill vaping that works. I smoked for 40 yrs and quit with flavored vape in less than a month and still enjoy vaping. And the age limit on Beer and Alcohol works real good and teens still get the hands on it.
Health Canada is so full of it. They attack vaping but leave cigarettes alone? They are trying to squash all competitiors to cigarettes , that much is clear.
They did the same for flavored cigarillos. They helped me to quit. They banned them so I switched to vaping. I vaped for 5-6 months. Then quit all together.
Their goal is to keep people on cigarettes. Health Canada and big tobacco are bosom buddies. They keep talking about nicotine and how bad it is. But if you look at new 3rd party studies, it's not nearly as bad as they thought. I fact there are cognitive bennifits to nicotine. Maybe that's what they are affraid of. The bad stuff came from all the other chemicals put into cigarettes and those produced by combustion.
Leave vaping alone. Striving for less government in our personal lives is the way to go.
Always good to get information about our northern neighbor.
They have not asked the YOUTH any relevant questions, the questions have been designed to ham-string vaping, who does this benefit? answer: Big tobacco and James Van Loon, whilst public health and 'do one'
Boom, just had a revelation !!!!!!!!!!!! If vaping is allowed, James Van (Director General of the Tobacco Control Directorate at Health Canada) no longer has a job, now I get it 🙂 . Stinks of corruption, nothing new here, these people do not care about public health at all.
ALL the scientific peer reviewed DATA in the UK has shown there is NO epidemic in youth vaping. However, there is so much flawed data out there that shows youth rates increasing, but its false and untrustworthy data. A good scientist would integrator all data properly before making any regulatory decision or restrictions. Just BAN vaping from youth, that you need to be over 18 to buy any vaper products, its that simple
Well about time, youth should not have easy access to thes products and also the amount of teens selling prescription drugs
They attack vaping but leave cigarettes out of the equation? Total madness unless it's to keep the cigarette industry also Big Pharma going on the money train.