Both of my in-laws died from smoking related problems and my wife had asthma growing up and it "miraculously" went away when she moved out of their house where they both smoked two packs a day. It just baffles me and pisses me off so much how hard it seems people in power are trying to make it to vape or even just to start vaping, and have been for so long. It also baffles me how we keep voting these people into power when they clearly ARE NOT CONCERNED with anyone's well being or health regardless of what they claim and the concern seems to be squarely aimed at how much power, control, and money they can obtain… and we give them another term to keep doing the same and don't hold them accountable at all.
I guess I can at least take comfort in the fact that I have multiple mechs, exclusively rebuildable tanks and drippers, and am completely comfortable using them with liquid I make… I wish the best of luck to those that don't have that. I've seen firsthand what cigs can do and had to witness it in loved-ones. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Feel sorry for all you in USA if Ban vaping, The USA GOVERNMENT need a good kicking. we rather fortunate here in UK the government have accepted vaping is far less harmful than tobacco smoking and now have accepted vaping.infact UK Government Health department has already give permission for hospitals to sell vape products.Its quite simple the UK Government know quite well in future years it will save financially millions in hospitals treatment from tobacco related sickness and disease,only silly rules here are the TPD limited to just buy 2ml tanks and silly Nic shots, but now a lot of companies have been adding an extra bigger tank in the set up as an extra accessorie. For all them EU WANKERS who set the silly TPD rules never affected me, am stiil able get hold 72mg nicotine from certain companies and any amount flavour concentrate to still make my own juice. also its very easy to buy from so many other countries any vape gear.i had no problem having shipped/delivered taifun gt4, yes thats 5ml TANK,. fuck them TPD NONSENSE RULES, who the fuck do they think they are telling us vapers what we can do and not do. Hope somehow for all you USA vapers something will be sorted with no ban or any harsh conditions/ restrictions to comply with
If all they want to do is keep vape products out of the hands of kids, the solution is simple: Every vape product should have a unique serial number on the outside of the package and on the devices themselves. Every purchase should require a govt issued photo ID. At the point of sale, the ID number and product serial should be recorded, together. When a kid gets caught with something, the serial will help trace it back to the responsible parties, either the store that sold it without an ID check, or the individual that purchased it. Online sales should require uploading a photo of your ID, the name and address should match the name and shipping address of the sale, the purchase should be shipped only to that name & address, and an ID that matches should be required to receive the package. (USPS already offers that kind of restricted delivery, where you have to pick it up at the post office and show ID, which is happening a lot more often to me, lately, when buying vape products)
Even if the FDA appeals and wins, it only delays the inevitable. It only delays the date in which companies have to comply. The bigger hardware and juice companies have very little excuse for not putting aside some of the money they have made, to do what they have to do to stay in business.
But what this will ultimately lead to is more people DIYing, and that includes DIY hardware making its way into a local black market. We'll have ignorant, clueless people that have no business using a mech mod, using mech mods, essentially walking around with a pipe bomb in their pockets. And we'll have clueless, ignorant people that have no business making mech mods, building them in their garages.
And if the sale of freebase nicotine gets banned or restricted, we'll see people start making their own from pipe and cigarette tobacco, which will not be as safe to use.
So, toxic juice and dangerous hardware will be in our future, much like the batches of toxic alcohol that killed people during Prohibition. Then everyone will get to point at it and say "See? We were right all along! Vaping is dangerous!"
Sorry to comment so late, but the reason vaping is dying is a lack of lobbyists… fast food, oil, pharmaceuticals, big tobacco, all have them and they pour hundreds to representatives, press and media… pods of course are a great issue, but it’s only the evolution of the business, more money for the companies for less… so unless vaping companies pour money into the machine they’re gonna get dragged around as the worst, even with medical and scientific backing telling us the benefits and year after year of no long term effects found… as the condition all around the world, everybody get vaping wrong even vapers, it’s like we are sabotaging ourselves discussing small details such as what is the best mod or tank or should you vape nic or not
No man Canada does not have that mind set, the city has been trying to jam us up for months. Some citys are trying to ban vaping on every public sidewalk, our city is using a old law from 2010 to bring in a flavor ban without passing legislation.
Such bullshit man. Jai Haze for president. Fuck it. Review what comes. Entertainment is entertainment. Good thing I am fully prepared to make everything and anything my damn self. So frustrating.
I was literally just on a live chat earlier today on this channel and heard him mention the FDA thing I went over it already, I'm not gonna go over it anymore. So I looked this up and I've never heard any of this stuff before today. I haven't bought juice in like two years because I ended up buying like 24 bottles of the juice that was going out of business they were $5 for 100 mils or something so I bought a bunch 12mg you know like 4-5 9mg 3 6mg and then like 9 0mg and I've been just mixing them all together somewhere around 5mg. I ran out like three weeks ago I go back into a store and I'm finding out all the stuff now. That in 10 months it's over and it's like a hobby to people and all this stuff. Man five years ago it was like kanger tech sub box mini set was the new thing and awesome and it was used to quit smoking. Also you're right people like me, I will go back to smoking. I bought a pack of cigarettes because I left my mod at home one day. This is BS.
How does 1 judge have so much authority that they can make a law (that other ppl don't even have to agree on) that can put a ruling into effect, that nobody in the entire country/government can overrule. ?
That's insane, that only the FDA and the president can even potentially fight it. That no other agency, no other elective body can say or do anything about it, and it affects the entire country. Wth man?
This is prohibition, and we know how well that turned out.
If Juul didn't come up with pod system's, someone else would've. That's just the market place. They created a product that was discreet, small and attractive to a large demographic of consumers, which unfortunately includes kids.
Not to play devils advocate but after 5 yrs of healthy vaping I all of a sudden started developing a severe rash on my upper body chest, neck and throat. It progressed to the point of causing my breathing to start shutting down. Evidently I developed a staph infection in my lungs from cheap PG which has been almost impossible to get rid of with very strong antibiotics. I argued with people for yrs that vaping was healthier, now at 42 after stopping vaping and trying to get better for my kids, I really wish there had been more study’s on vaping before I vaped. It was my choice but there is no telling what side affects will come from vaping and that’s a sad fact.
Both of my in-laws died from smoking related problems and my wife had asthma growing up and it "miraculously" went away when she moved out of their house where they both smoked two packs a day. It just baffles me and pisses me off so much how hard it seems people in power are trying to make it to vape or even just to start vaping, and have been for so long. It also baffles me how we keep voting these people into power when they clearly ARE NOT CONCERNED with anyone's well being or health regardless of what they claim and the concern seems to be squarely aimed at how much power, control, and money they can obtain… and we give them another term to keep doing the same and don't hold them accountable at all.
I guess I can at least take comfort in the fact that I have multiple mechs, exclusively rebuildable tanks and drippers, and am completely comfortable using them with liquid I make… I wish the best of luck to those that don't have that. I've seen firsthand what cigs can do and had to witness it in loved-ones. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Feel sorry for all you in USA if Ban vaping, The USA GOVERNMENT need a good kicking. we rather fortunate here in UK the government have accepted vaping is far less harmful than tobacco smoking and now have accepted vaping.infact UK Government Health department has already give permission for hospitals to sell vape products.Its quite simple the UK Government know quite well in future years it will save financially millions in hospitals treatment from tobacco related sickness and disease,only silly rules here are the TPD limited to just buy 2ml tanks and silly Nic shots, but now a lot of companies have been adding an extra bigger tank in the set up as an extra accessorie. For all them EU WANKERS who set the silly TPD rules never affected me, am stiil able get hold 72mg nicotine from certain companies and any amount flavour concentrate to still make my own juice. also its very easy to buy from so many other countries any vape gear.i had no problem having shipped/delivered taifun gt4, yes thats 5ml TANK,. fuck them TPD NONSENSE RULES, who the fuck do they think they are telling us vapers what we can do and not do. Hope somehow for all you USA vapers something will be sorted with no ban or any harsh conditions/ restrictions to comply with
If all they want to do is keep vape products out of the hands of kids, the solution is simple: Every vape product should have a unique serial number on the outside of the package and on the devices themselves. Every purchase should require a govt issued photo ID. At the point of sale, the ID number and product serial should be recorded, together. When a kid gets caught with something, the serial will help trace it back to the responsible parties, either the store that sold it without an ID check, or the individual that purchased it. Online sales should require uploading a photo of your ID, the name and address should match the name and shipping address of the sale, the purchase should be shipped only to that name & address, and an ID that matches should be required to receive the package. (USPS already offers that kind of restricted delivery, where you have to pick it up at the post office and show ID, which is happening a lot more often to me, lately, when buying vape products)
Even if the FDA appeals and wins, it only delays the inevitable. It only delays the date in which companies have to comply. The bigger hardware and juice companies have very little excuse for not putting aside some of the money they have made, to do what they have to do to stay in business.
But what this will ultimately lead to is more people DIYing, and that includes DIY hardware making its way into a local black market. We'll have ignorant, clueless people that have no business using a mech mod, using mech mods, essentially walking around with a pipe bomb in their pockets. And we'll have clueless, ignorant people that have no business making mech mods, building them in their garages.
And if the sale of freebase nicotine gets banned or restricted, we'll see people start making their own from pipe and cigarette tobacco, which will not be as safe to use.
So, toxic juice and dangerous hardware will be in our future, much like the batches of toxic alcohol that killed people during Prohibition. Then everyone will get to point at it and say "See? We were right all along! Vaping is dangerous!"
Would vape companies be able support flavoring companies and just send the flavoring in for approval?
In the uk vaping is fine, in fact vape shops are Opening in hospitals in the uk
Sorry to comment so late, but the reason vaping is dying is a lack of lobbyists… fast food, oil, pharmaceuticals, big tobacco, all have them and they pour hundreds to representatives, press and media… pods of course are a great issue, but it’s only the evolution of the business, more money for the companies for less… so unless vaping companies pour money into the machine they’re gonna get dragged around as the worst, even with medical and scientific backing telling us the benefits and year after year of no long term effects found… as the condition all around the world, everybody get vaping wrong even vapers, it’s like we are sabotaging ourselves discussing small details such as what is the best mod or tank or should you vape nic or not
Russia shits on vaping pretty hard too. Hopefully this whole situation will be resolved without heavy consequences for vapers
No man Canada does not have that mind set, the city has been trying to jam us up for months. Some citys are trying to ban vaping on every public sidewalk, our city is using a old law from 2010 to bring in a flavor ban without passing legislation.
Thank you for this Jai, I'll be writing the President sharing my Vape story and begging as well as on my knees praying !!!
3fvape 3 weeks but worth the wait, their cheap
Stock up real good for real! I don't wanna go no to smoking cigs
The IQOS sucks!!
WTF???!!! WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT
America bouts lose citizens like James Charles lost subs
Such bullshit man. Jai Haze for president. Fuck it. Review what comes. Entertainment is entertainment. Good thing I am fully prepared to make everything and anything my damn self. So frustrating.
I was literally just on a live chat earlier today on this channel and heard him mention the FDA thing I went over it already, I'm not gonna go over it anymore. So I looked this up and I've never heard any of this stuff before today. I haven't bought juice in like two years because I ended up buying like 24 bottles of the juice that was going out of business they were $5 for 100 mils or something so I bought a bunch 12mg you know like 4-5 9mg 3 6mg and then like 9 0mg and I've been just mixing them all together somewhere around 5mg. I ran out like three weeks ago I go back into a store and I'm finding out all the stuff now. That in 10 months it's over and it's like a hobby to people and all this stuff. Man five years ago it was like kanger tech sub box mini set was the new thing and awesome and it was used to quit smoking. Also you're right people like me, I will go back to smoking. I bought a pack of cigarettes because I left my mod at home one day. This is BS.
How does 1 judge have so much authority that they can make a law (that other ppl don't even have to agree on) that can put a ruling into effect, that nobody in the entire country/government can overrule. ?
That's insane, that only the FDA and the president can even potentially fight it. That no other agency, no other elective body can say or do anything about it, and it affects the entire country.
Wth man?
This is prohibition, and we know how well that turned out.
If Juul didn't come up with pod system's, someone else would've. That's just the market place. They created a product that was discreet, small and attractive to a large demographic of consumers, which unfortunately includes kids.
Not to play devils advocate but after 5 yrs of healthy vaping I all of a sudden started developing a severe rash on my upper body chest, neck and throat. It progressed to the point of causing my breathing to start shutting down. Evidently I developed a staph infection in my lungs from cheap PG which has been almost impossible to get rid of with very strong antibiotics. I argued with people for yrs that vaping was healthier, now at 42 after stopping vaping and trying to get better for my kids, I really wish there had been more study’s on vaping before I vaped. It was my choice but there is no telling what side affects will come from vaping and that’s a sad fact.
Looking forward for those pure VG reviews.
Keep your head up Jai.